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Addiction MMOR Member


Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 1128 Location: Wentzville, MO
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:58 pm Post subject: E85 Fuel |
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Anyone know anything about this?? I saw it on the news last night. It's called E85 fuel. It can be run in some factory cars. I was wondering why it cant be run in all car's. Would it mess with the cat's or injectors, maybe it's timing??? It's about 50 cent's cheeper than gas, that's why I'm wondering. It would be great to run in older carb. motors (if you can) or in older trucks that use a ton of gas. That would be one hell of a savings on fuel. If anyone know any reasons why it can be run in older trucks? Or new cars. I know that it's high octane it's 85% ethanol & 15% unleaded gas. It should make Mother Earth happy. It burns clean. Well I thought I would bring up the subject. |
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Addiction MMOR Member


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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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If you have a Flex-Fuel Vehicle, then you don't really need to "switch"... just go buy E-85 and try it. If you don't like it, quit buying E-85.
I think that whether it decreases MPG or not depends on your driving. Modern engines have a "knock sensor", and they detect when the engine is pinging under load. This happens when you're pulling a loaded trailer, or even when you're climbing a hill, but haven't bothered to downshift yet. When the knock sensor senses preignition, it backs-off the spark timing, which can reduce gas mileage.
E-85 has an octane rating over 100, so you can think of it as "very super premium" fuel. It should be practically impossible to get preignition/pinging while burning E-85. This means that the spark doesn't need to adjust, and gas mileage may actually go up with E-85.
Even if you find that mileage goes down a bit, E-85 is cheaper than gasoline, so it mostly balances-out.
Now, if you are thinking of converting an old (non-FFV) engine to burn E-85, then gas mileage will go down, unless you modify the engine a bit (such as increase timing & jet's in the carb.). that will give you more power. That's what I found out so far. 
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Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Posts: 2538 Location: St.L, MO
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:46 pm Post subject: Alternative fuel |
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It would be interesting to find out it there is an alternative fuel tax credit available for using this stuff. _________________
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TEX MMOR Founding Member


Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 679 Location: Missouri, USA
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:19 am Post subject: Re: Alternative fuel |
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| ott wrote: | | It would be interesting to find out it there is an alternative fuel tax credit available for using this stuff. |
There is, that's why there's a price break. I haven't seen E85 available anywhere locally, but I DID notice that every full-size SUV at the Chevy dealer in Union was "flex-fuel" when I stopped late one night to drool over trucks
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REDCRO_REDNECK Non-Member User
Joined: 04 Apr 2005 Posts: 244 Location: Poplar Bluff
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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| where can i read about this feul? |
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ott Site Admin


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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 3:45 pm Post subject: Special Green |
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www.e85.specialgreen.com
Joe had done some more research on this yesterday. Looks like older Carbureted vehicles need to be jetted differently so that the engine doesn't run too lean. _________________
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TEX MMOR Founding Member


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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:08 pm Post subject: Re: Special Green |
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| ott wrote: | www.e85.specialgreen.com
Joe had done some more research on this yesterday. Looks like older Carbureted vehicles need to be jetted differently so that the engine doesn't run too lean. |
The alcohol is also hard on rubber lines.
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Addiction MMOR Member


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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 6:42 am Post subject: Re: Special Green |
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| TEX wrote: |
The alcohol is also hard on rubber lines.
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Yea, I saw that. I wonder haw long it takes for it to Hurt them & the gas tank.(1-2 years??? Or 10years???) I'm going to try it in Dozer & Old Blue at mud fest. I'll let you guy's know what I think of it after we run it.  |
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